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From the November MAREI Meeting & Facebook Discussion

Real investors. Real stories. Real lessons you can use.

Every experienced investor has a story — that one deal that went sideways, upside-down, or out the back door entirely. Some problems cost money, some cost time, some cost sleep… and some cost all three.

At our November MAREI Meeting and across our member community online, investors shared the kinds of stories that make you wince — but also make you wiser.

Note, Members, you can jump in the the Member Library to watch the full replay.

Here are some of the biggest lessons learned when deals go bad, so you can avoid learning them the hard way.

1. Confirm Your Access: Roads, Driveways & Easements Matter More Than You Think

Lisa L’s story:
She bought a property that could only be reached using a road running across her neighbor’s land. That access existed through an easement — a legal right allowing her to use the driveway.

Until the neighbor decided he didn’t care about the easement… and removed the road.

For two years, she had to climb a dangerous, muddy hillside just to reach her own home while the case worked its way through court. Eventually, a judge ruled in her favor and restored access, but it was a long, expensive, and exhausting battle.

What’s the lesson?

Always verify recorded ingress/egress easements before closing — and understand what type you have:

  • Express Easement: Written, documented, recorded. Strongest.

  • Prescriptive Easement: Gained through use over time. Riskier.

  • Easement by Necessity: When a property becomes landlocked, courts may grant one — but it’s not guaranteed.

Even with a legally recorded easement, disputes happen. And if the easement is not clearly written, enforceable, or recorded, the entire property’s value — and usability — can collapse.

Bottom line: Access is everything. Always check surveys, title commitments, and recorded easements before closing.

2. Don’t Buy Cat Houses — Seriously (and Yes, This Is a Thing)

One investor sent us this painful experience:

“Never — and I mean never — buy a cat house. The owners had so many cats that you could smell the urine from the street in the dead of winter. The ductwork and plumbing drains were eaten out. We tore the home to the studs and a professional biohazard team still couldn’t eliminate the smell.”

Animal urine (especially cat urine) breaks down into ammonia and uric acid. It soaks deep into:

  • subflooring

  • studs

  • insulation

  • drywall

  • HVAC systems

  • and even the soil under the slab

Many houses can be saved.
Some… cannot.

Lesson:

If you can smell it outside before you open the door — run.
Not every house is worth saving.

Dog Houses can be just as bad.

3. Subject-To Deals Can Become Time Bombs If People Don’t Understand Them

Subject-to deals can be amazing tools — when structured well, documented well, and with the right expectations. But a poorly understood subject-to can turn into a human nightmare.

Mark B. shared his story:
He assigned a subject-to deal to an owner-occupant. When taxes and insurance rose (which increases the PITI payment), the new buyer blamed him — even though he disclosed it and even though rising escrow costs are normal.

The buyer eventually showed up at his house at 9 PM, furious.
Then filed a complaint with the Real Estate Commission, since Mark was licensed.

Mark was cleared because he had extensive documentation, communication history, and had made sincere efforts to help the buyer solve the problem.

Lessons:

✔ Never rely on someone else to make your subject-to payments
✔ Fully disclose every single moving piece (especially escrow increases)
✔ Put disclosures in writing — signed
✔ If something goes wrong, make every reasonable effort to help
✔ Document everything

Mark ended with this:

“I hope this saves someone else some headaches.”

It will.

4. Capital Solves a Lot of Problems — and a Lack of It Creates Most Problems

Michael W. learned this the hard way.
His first two rentals were owner-financed and looked good on paper — until reality set in.

  • Tenants who knew him personally refused to pay because repairs weren’t fast enough.

  • The next tenants were addicts who never paid rent.

  • Evictions drained him financially.

  • The second property sat vacant, needing repairs he couldn’t afford.

Both properties were gone within a year.

Michael’s takeaway:

“Now I don’t do ANYTHING without capital or access to capital, tons of due diligence, smarter acquisitions, better management systems, and a real purpose behind the deal.”

That’s wisdom, not failure.

5. Zoning Can Make or Break a Deal (Brian Critchfield’s Story)

Brian shared his flip that should have been a slam dunk — beautifully renovated, priced right, and in demand.

Then the appraisal came back.  And the appraiser caught it, the house was not zoned residential, which it needed to be to get a loan . . . and a lot of other things like insurance.

This killed his buyers, his refinance options, and nearly the deal itself.

He tried rezoning, which triggered a long bureaucratic process including applications, neighborhood votes, public meetings, and months of delays which they are still trying to sort out.

He pivoted to:

  • attempting a commercial loan to replace Hard Money.

  • turning it into a short-term rental to boost cash flow

  • finally pursuing a neighborhood-wide rezoning effort

Lessons from Brian:

✔ Check zoning yourself — never assume the title company caught it
✔ Don’t over-rehab properties in uncertain zones
✔ Have multiple exit strategies
✔ Expect rezoning to take many months

This deal didn’t go bad because of workmanship.
It went bad because of paperwork.

6. Subject-To + Portfolio Loan = A Double Crisis (Debra Felderhoff’s Story)

Debra has been investing since the 2000s and has built a large rental portfolio. She’s smart, experienced, and battle-tested — which is exactly why her story matters.

Part 1 — The Subject-To Loan Called Due

Decades ago, Deb took over a subject-to loan at a high interest rate — but it made sense at the time. She made every payment on time, always by auto draft through the lenders system.

Then one day, Chase sent a letter that they were calling the loan due.

What does that mean?
Most mortgages contain a Due-on-Sale Clause giving the lender the right (not obligation) to demand payoff if the property transfers without paying off the loan.

Most lenders never enforce it.
But they can.

Deb after doing a bit of investigating saw they had stopped auto drafting her payments.  So she mailed them by check.  They kept sending her letters, but they kept cashing her checks . . . until finally the balance was down to $5,000 owed, which she finally paid off.

Important Reality for TODAY’S Market

During the Great Recession:

  • banks didn’t want low-interest loans

  • foreclosing cost more than leaving the loan alone

  • loan departments were overwhelmed

Today is different:

  • many existing subject-to loans have very low interest rates

  • lenders do have financial incentive to call them due

  • compliance departments are more automated than ever

Subject-to investors need to understand the risk.  Lenders are calling loans due and enforcing them.

Part 2 — The Portfolio Loan Gone Nuclear

Deb also held a commercial portfolio loan — a single $1.323M loan covering multiple rental properties bundled together.

When Bank Midwest changed their lending policies after the crash in 2008, her loan officer was fired and the bank notified her that her entire portfolio loan was being called due.

No bank was lending at that time.
Her financial runway was measured in weeks.

Through a combination of:

  • long-term relationships

  • a former banker who wanted to help – the guy who got fired gave her some small local banks to reach out to.

  • pitching multiple small local banks

  • forcing them to “compete” with each other

  • staying persistent

  • and keeping immaculate records

She saved the entire portfolio.

Deb’s lessons:

✔ Never put all rentals on one commercial blanket loan
✔ Maintain relationships with multiple bankers
✔ Treat everyone well — relationships saved her
✔ The more organized you are, the easier it is to get rescued
✔ Understand that commercial lending follows different rules

Deb’s deals show how quickly good deals can turn into disasters — and how experience and relationships can bring them back.

7. Evictions, Bankruptcy, and a $90K Surprise (David Miller’s Story)

David shared the kind of early experiences that would make most new investors quit — but also shaped him into a disciplined operator.

His first deal: The eviction nightmare

  • Served notices incorrectly

  • Sheriff said paperwork was invalid

  • Tenants moved back in

  • Eviction restarted

  • Repairs doubled

A $50 shortcut cost him months and thousands of dollars.

His second deal: The bankruptcy bomb

He contracted a large package deal:
10-plex, 15 single-family homes, and a commercial property.  He made promises to the seller.  The deal required him to foreclose to clean up all the other liens and judgements, but the seller got scared and filed bankruptcy.  

This triggered:

  • automatic bankruptcy stay

  • months of delays

  • attorney fees

  • lender pressure

  • skyrocketing holding costs

  • near financial collapse

One phone call — the right phone call — finally broke the logjam.

And then there was the win…

  • Paid $10,000 for an option

  • Assigned the option for $90,000 two days later

Even bad years have bright spots.

David’s lessons:

✔ Action matters more than perfection
✔ Documentation protects you
✔ Communication solves most problems
✔ Bankruptcy can freeze your deal overnight
✔ Never assume the process is simple
✔ Persistence creates breakthroughs
✔ Big wins happen when you stay in the game

Final Thought: Bad Deals Make Better Investors

Every story above has one thing in common:
The investor who survived learned, adapted, and came back stronger.

At MAREI, we don’t pretend every deal is sunshine and stacked cash.
The real world is messy.
But it’s also full of opportunities — especially for the investor who:

  • does the due diligence

  • builds a network

  • documents everything

  • takes action

  • and learns from mistakes (their own and others’)

You don’t have to make every mistake yourself.
Just learn from the community that’s made them — and lived to talk about it.

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